Old World Players

Château Malescot St. Exupéry

Margaux Red Bordeaux Blend 2010

Paul J
9.1

Disappointing! I used to be a big fan of this producer, but recent bottles have been lacking.

1 hour decant. Dark purple color. Nose has oak, vanilla, and plum. The body lacks depth and has almost no fruit. More New World than Old World. Short finish. My rating might be harsh at 91, but just had higher expectations.
— 5 years ago

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Still closed down you think? Got a bottle I've been hanging on to, but sounds like it needs a few more years.
Paul J

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Possibly, but starting to think this just might be an average producer.

Sandhi Wines

Sta. Rita Hills Chardonnay 2015

Blind, I would have been very confused as whether to call it old or new world. It’s light yet well structured, some oak yet great freshness and acidity. At a good place in terms of cost performance and matches the strengths of old/new world. — 7 years ago

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Hyde De Villaine

Hyde Vineyard Chardonnay 2015

Legit. Old world. Texture and depth, yet lean. Pomegranate. Grapefruit. — 7 years ago

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Château Lynch-Bages

Grand Cru Classé Pauillac Cabernet Sauvignon Blend 2000

Somm David T
9.5

The 2000 is delicious but, it is evolving at a glacial pace. Out of magnum.

On the nose, touch of barnyard, glycerin, ripe; blackberries, dark cherries, black raspberries, plum, strawberries & cherries. Vanilla, dry clay, limestone, river stones, just a touch of pyrazines & bandaid, dark,,turned, moist earth, dry grass and dry & fresh dark florals.

The body is full, round & sexy. Dry softened, sweet tannins. ripe; blackberries, dark cherries, black raspberries, plum, strawberries & cherries. Vanilla, dry clay, limestone, river stones, just a touch of pyrazines & bandaid, fresh tobacco leaf, saddle-wood, dry underbrush, dark, turned, moist earth, dry grass and dry & fresh dark florals. The acidity is magnificent. The structure, tension, length and balance are sensational. The finish is drop dead gorgeous. I’d still hold mine another 5 years as long as you have 3-4 bottles for more 5 year increments.

Photos of, their Estate vines, Clyde Beffa-Owner of K&L Wine Merchants, Owner of Chateau Lynch Bages - Jean-Michel Cazes, guests of the dinner and a sunset view from their Estate.

Producer notes and history...Lynch Bages takes its name from the local area where the Chateau is located in Bages. The vineyard of what was to become Lynch Bages was established and then expanded by the Dejean family who sold it in 1728 to Pierre Drouillard.

In 1749, Drouillard bequeathed the estate to his daughter Elizabeth, the wife of Thomas Lynch. This is how the estate came to belong to the Lynch family, where it remained for seventy-five years and received the name Lynch Bages. However, it was not always known under that name.

For a while the wines were sold under the name of Jurine Bages. In fact, when the estate was Classified in the 1855 Classification of the Medoc, the wines were selling under the name of Chateau Jurine Bages. That is because the property was owned at the time by a Swiss wine merchant, Sebastien Jurine.

In 1862, the property was sold to the Cayrou brothers who restored the estate’s name to Chateau Lynch family.

Around 1870, Lou Janou Cazes and his wife Angelique were living in Pauillac, close to Chateau Pichon Longueville Baron. It was here that Jean-Charles Cazes, the couple’s second son, was born in 1877.

In the 1930’s, Jean-Charles Cazes, who was already in charge of Les-Ormes-de-Pez in St. Estephe agreed to lease the vines of Lynch Bages. By that time, the Cazes family had history in Bordeaux dating back to the second half of the nineteenth century.

This agreement to take over Lynch Bages was good for both the owner and Jean Charles Cazes. Because, the vineyards had become dilapidated and were in need of expensive replanting, which was too expensive for the owner. However, for Cazes, this represented an opportunity, as he had the time, and the ability to manage Lynch Bages, but he lacked the funds to buy the vineyard.

Jean-Charles Cazes eventually purchased both properties on the eve of the Second World War. Lynch Bages and Les-Ormes-de-Pez have been run by the Cazes family ever since. In 1988, the Cazes family added to their holdings in Bordeaux when they purchased an estate in the Graves region, Chateau Villa Bel Air.

Around 1970, they increased their vineyards with the purchase of Haut-Bages Averous and Saussus. By the late 1990’s their holdings had expanded to nearly 100 hectares! Jean-Michel Cazes who had been employed as an engineer in Paris, joined the wine trade in 1973. In a short time, Jean Michel Cazes modernized everything at Lynch Bages.

He installed a new vat room, insulated the buildings, developing new technologies and equipment, built storage cellars, restored the loading areas and wine storehouses over the next fifteen years. During that time period, Jean Michel Cazes was the unofficial ambassador of not just the Left Bank, but all of Bordeaux. Jean Michel Cazes was one of the first Chateau owners to begin promoting their wine in China back in 1986.

Bages became the first wine sent into space, when a French astronaut carried a bottle of 1975 Lynch Bages with him on the joint American/French space flight!

Beginning in 1987, Jean-Michel Cazes joined the team at the insurance company AXA, who wanted to build an investment portfolio of quality vineyards in the Medoc, Pomerol, Sauternes, Portugal and Hungary.

Jean-Michel Cazes was named the director of the wine division and all the estates including of course, the neighboring, Second Growth, Chateau Pichon Baron.

June 1989 marked the inauguration of the new wine making facilities at Lynch Bages, which was on of their best vintages. 1989 also marked the debut of the Cordeillan- hotel and restaurant where Sofia and I had one of our best dinners ever. A few years after that, the Village de Bages with its shops was born.

The following year, in 1990, the estate began making white wine, Blanc de Lynch Bages. In 2001, the Cazes family company bought vineyards in the Rhone Valley in the Languedoc appellation, as well as in Australia and Portugal. They added to their holdings a few years later when they purchased a vineyard in Chateauneuf du Pape.

In 2006, Jean-Charles Cazes took over as the managing director of Chateau Lynch Bages. Jean-Michel Cazes continues to lead the wine and tourism division of the family’s activities. Due to their constant promotion in the Asian market, Chateau Lynch Bages remains one of the strongest brands in the Asian market, especially in China.

In 2017, Chateau Lynch Bages began a massive renovation and modernization, focusing on their wine making, and technical facilities. The project, headed by the noted architects Chien Chung Pei and Li Chung Pei, the sons of the famous architect that designed the glass pyramid for the Louvre in Paris as well as several other important buildings.

The project will be completed in 2019. This includes a new grape, reception center, gravity flow wine cellar and the vat rooms, which will house at least, 80 stainless steel vats in various sizes allowing for parcel by parcel vinification.

The new cellars will feature a glass roof, terraces with 360 degree views and completely modernized reception areas and offices. They are not seeing visitors until it’s completion.

In March, 2017, they purchased Chateau Haut Batailley from Françoise Des Brest Borie giving the Cazes family over 120 hectares of vines in Pauillac!

The 100 hectare vineyard of Lynch Bages is planted to 75% Cabernet Sauvignon, 17% Merlot, 6% Cabernet Franc and 2% Petit Verdot. The vineyard has a terroir of gravel, chalk and sand soils.

The vineyard can be divided into two main sections, with a large portion of the vines being planted close to the Chateau on the Bages plateau. At their peak, the vineyard reaches an elevation of 20 meters. The other section of the vineyard lies further north, with its key terroir placed on the Monferan plateau.

They also own vines in the far southwest of the appellation, next Chateau Pichon Lalande, on the St. Julien border, which can be used in the Grand Vin. The vineyard can be split into four main blocks, which can be further subdivided into 140 separate parcels.

The average age of the vines is about 30 years old. But they have old vines, some of which are close to 90 years old.

The vineyards are planted to a vine density of 9,000 vines per hectare. The average age of the vines is about 30 years old. But they have old vines, some of which are close to 90 years old.

Lynch Bages also six hectares of vine are reserved for the production of the white Bordeaux wine of Chateau Lynch Bages. Those vines are located to the west of the estate. They are planted to 53% Sauvignon Blanc, 32% Semillon and 15% Muscadelle. On average, those vines are about 20 years of age. Lynch Bages Blanc made its debut in 1990.

To produce the wine of Chateau Lynch Bages, vinification takes place 35 stainless steel vats that vary in size. Malolactic fermentation takes place in a combination of 30% French, oak barrels with the remainder taking place in tank.

The wine of Chateau Lynch Bages is aged in an average of 70% new, French oak barrels for between 12 and 15 months. Due to the appellation laws of Pauillac, the wine is sold as a generic AOC Bordeaux Blanc, because Pauillac does not allow for the plantings of white wine grapes.

For the vinification of their white, Bordeaux wine, Blanc de Lynch-Bages is vinified in a combination of 50% new, French oak barrels, 20% in one year old barrels and the remaining 30% is vinified in vats. The wine is aged on its lees for at least six months. The white wine is sold an AOC Bordeaux wine.

The annual production at Lynch Bages is close to 35,000 cases depending on the vintage.

The also make a 2nd wine, which was previously known as Chateau Chateau Haut Bages Averous. However, the estate changed its name to Echo de Lynch Bages beginning with the 2007 vintage. The estate recently added a third wine, Pauillac de Lynch-Bages.



— 7 years ago

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OMG. Thanks for the novel. Great notes!
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@Peggy Hadley Thank you & sorry. I get a little carried away with Bordeaux producer history. Love their history, wines and the people that work so hard to make them.

Barboursville Vineyards

Reserve Virginia Cabernet Franc 2017

Very new world style but with and old world texture. — 5 years ago

Dominus Estate

Napanook Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Blend 2009

Random find a airport duty free. Bought ready to be disappointed but it was a real fun bottle. Some hints of tertiary flavors (mushrooms, forest floor) but on the whole it was a great mix of old and new world. — 6 years ago

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Opus One

Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Blend 1982

Mature, elegant, harmonious wine that has aged well. Distinctive tertiary notes in the wine give this a definite Old World personality despite having that classic core of fruit even restrained wines take on in Napa. I bet this was singing on its 20th Birthday. — 7 years ago

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Château Latour

Premier Grand Cru Classé Pauillac Red Bordeaux Blend 1959

This 59 was Rocking and Rolling. Firing on all cylinders and showing gloriously. My contribution to this evening’s wine gluttony!!!!
It’s absolutely mind blowing how these wines can hold up and pass the test of time. Bravo to old world wine making!!
— 7 years ago

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Seriously!

La Rioja Alta

Gran Reserva 904 Rioja Tempranillo Graciano 2009

The latest newly released 904 vintage 🎉

What do you folks think of the new more modern label? Personally I find it too modern for an old world wine 😁 but the great news is the contents are still superb 🎉

We killed 3 bottles of this at the weekend & alas I didn’t take notes, so will do so next time, but it had the typical old world LRA 904 nose with a fab well balanced yummy body that should match the 04/05 in quality given a few years 👍

LRA does it again 👏
Incredible quality @£38 ✅
93 going 94-96
— 8 years ago

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Very nice! Didn’t know when this vintage would make its debut. Glad the contents are still 👌🏼
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@Shay A if you’re a 904 fan you’ll be happy 😎😉👍🍷

Valdicava

Brunello di Montalcino Sangiovese 2006

This is a big wine with a major manure factor on the nose! Palate is very old world and vegetal with herbs and wood shavings... still with bold tannins.. good legs. Classic, pure interpretation of Brunello! — 8 years ago

R. López de Heredia

Viña Tondonia Reserva Rioja Tempranillo Blend

Lojo delicious, medium body, old world — 9 years ago

Sandhi Wines

Sanford & Benedict Sta. Rita Hills Pinot Noir 2012

Cherry fruit, beautiful herbal peppery finish in an elegant old world style Pinot. — 9 years ago

Château Cantemerle

Haut-Médoc Red Bordeaux Blend 2015

One of the great values in the left bank. Tobacco, cedar, pencil shavings, cassis, and blackberries. Very much classic old world Bordeaux, but with some more expressive fruit. Good concentration and length, per usual. — 6 years ago

Mayacamas Vineyards

Mt. Veeder Cabernet Sauvignon 2013

Old world, earthy, and delicious — 6 years ago

Château Léoville Barton

Saint-Julien Red Bordeaux Blend 1982

Still has 15+ years left...stunning integrated dark blue fruit full bodied old world earth clay driven ...the oldest wine I’ve tasted... — 7 years ago

Corison

Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 2001

So beautiful and clear in its purpose, titillating on the nose and fulfilling its promises beyond. Balanced and velvety dark red fruit, hints of black tea and cassis but all in a more Old than New World Gestalt. Lots of secondary stuff emerging you just want to sip it slowly. If anybody wonders how well these age, track one down, it’s so worth it. Kudos @Cathy Corison for making this distinctive and enduring bottle! — 7 years ago

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La Rioja Alta

Gran Reserva 890 Rioja Tempranillo Blend 2004

Magnum of my favourite Rioja in a fab year & £145 - A guaranteed 98-99 given a few years 😎 Great now, fab in 5 more years!

🍷Garnet cherry red w/ brick edging

👃 Soft warming seductive smoked oak w/ dark stewed spiced cherry, cocoa, punchy balsamic, vanilla, nutmeg, coconut & light leather - old world Rioja 😍

👄 Med creamy body of super soft silky dark dirty cherry & vanilla cocoa w/ a balsamic undertone

🎯 Long oak filled cherry vanilla cocoa berry & balsamic linger - boom 💥
— 7 years ago

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Love it 🍷

Dominus Estate

Dominus Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Blend 2008

Not as structured or focused as I remember it. Might be in a awkward phase at the mo. Some green notes with a long finish or dark cherries and cassis, black currant. Usually Dominus is the best of old and new world, but I felt like this wasn't quite so. — 8 years ago

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Domaine de la Côte

Bloom's Field Sta. Rita Hills Pinot Noir 2011

Terroir Old vs. New World comparator at 2/28/17 Rouge Tomate Salon Series on A Natural History of Wine — 9 years ago